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Bofire
READ MY LIPS!
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posted July 12, 2007 08:01 PM
I thought about this a while and decided to tell you guys a story. I say guys cause most of you are and if your like me hate Doctors.
18 months ago I went to the Doc cause my wife made me, Wonderful woman, she thought I was diabetic. No energy, tired, no gusto, happy to sit. I am not that way, I am generally moving from wake up to nite-nite.
First thing the Docs said is I aint diabetic, second thing was that my blood tests indicated liver cancer.
February first I did my first injection, and started oral meds, on a 12 week Chemo program. At the end of Feb. I got my first 'clean' lab test back!!!!! Thats when they changed it to a 24 week program. I approved, "hit em with both barrels" Tonight I did my last injection, my oral meds.
run out tomorrow.
I have been sick, fererish, dirreah, tired, a general butt head, but missed only a few days of work, and went Turkey hunting. Got one too.
I have not had a lab test that detected any problem since late Feb.
I AM CURED!
Thank god for my Wife. Listen to them guys, get the check ups. Get the Prostrate test and colonostomy. They can cure you if they find it early!!
I never said anything about this cause, I dont know why, and I am saying it now, cause I am hoping it will help some of you.
I am NOT looking for any bleeding heart sympathy stuff.
Carl
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canine
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posted July 12, 2007 08:52 PM
Way to go Bofire...I'm happy for you. Keep spreading your words, your story is inspirational(sp?)
Have a good coyote season!
JD
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Kelly Jackson
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posted July 13, 2007 06:08 AM
Thank you for the post. It gives all somthing to think about.
I am glad you caught it early and are doing well.
Kelly
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Tim Behle
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posted July 13, 2007 07:08 AM
Great Post Bofire,
I'm guilty as charged.
The caps on my teeth broke, and I didn't "Have time to fool with the dentist" Now I'm getting the same work done, plus fighting a nasty infection. I lost #30 pounds that I couldn't afford to lose, just because it hurt too much to eat.
I kept making excuses for my lack of energy and stamina, until I literally collapsed one evening and my wife had to run me to the ER.
Now I sit here with an oxygen tube sticking out of my nose and I can't do anything except look out the windows and wish I could go outside. I can't help but wonder what might be different if I had only gone to the Doctor several months ago when I first noticed the problems, instead of putting every thing off for so long.
And congratulations for your clean tests! That's got to be a wonderful relief!
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Rich Higgins
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posted July 13, 2007 07:22 AM
Glad to hear that you two are on the mend.I'm like you guys, as long as it doesn't hurt I'm bullet proof.
I last went to the doctor 8 years ago and he told me that I had heavy metal poisoning. If he's going to tell me crap like that why the hell would I want to go back?
My father was the same way. He didn't go to the doctor until he was peeing pus and blood. By then the prostate cancer had metastasized into his bones.
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Leonard
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posted July 13, 2007 08:00 AM
I'm making that appointment today.
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Bofire
READ MY LIPS!
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posted July 13, 2007 08:07 AM
Tim, you are on my prayer list.
Rich, get your butt to the Doc, I am gonna be mad if I don't get to hunt with you in the near future.
Leonard, I am a privat guy that don't share much personal info., Your post makes me glad I did, please tell me when your tests come back clean!!
Carl
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Greenside
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posted July 13, 2007 08:19 AM
Good advice, I was diagnosed having prostate cancer when I was fortyseven. This Jan I'll be having my ten year checkup and more than likely will be called cancer free. At the time of surgery the cancer was already in the margin and likely if uncaught for another year or so, I'd be six feet under by now.
A real family history for colon cancer. They have me on a two year scope schedule. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
[ July 13, 2007, 08:57 AM: Message edited by: Greenside ]
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scruffy
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posted July 13, 2007 11:53 AM
Similar story, I was 26 when I had a cancerous tumor removed from my neck, couple surgeries and radiation (I was lucky, didn't need chemo) and I was good to go. I'm 32 now, my daughter just turned 2.
later,
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Lonny
PANTS ON THE GROUND
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posted July 13, 2007 03:24 PM
The last couple of weeks a co-worker who is in his late fifties has been complaining about not feeling well. It has been hotter than hell lately and nobody is feeling well by the end of the day, so I passed it off as the the heat.
This past Monday he had a heart attack driving to the hospital. Luckily they were able to save his life. If he would have been anywhere but a few minutes from the hospital he would most likely be dead. Turns out the artery in the lower part of his heart was 100% blocked and another 70%.
I talked to him yesterday and he said he went to the Dr. for a check up six months ago and mentioned to the Doc that maybe they should look at his heart. The Doc said his blood work looked fine and didn't see any problem.
Funny thing is, if you look at the guy he LOOKS like a heart attack waiting to happen. Overweight, eats terribly, hardly sleeps, sweats like crazy all the time. All the signs were there if you ask me. Its surprising his Doc gave him a clean bill of health six months ago when all you have to do is look at the guy and can see he doesn't look like the healthiest dude in the world.
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DAA
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posted July 13, 2007 04:54 PM
Lonny, the take home message there, is not to put too much faith in what a "doctor" tells you. I've been dealing with their bullshit for about 18 months now, everything from the general practioner level to the high level specialists. The more I have interacted with them, the less confidence I have in them. They are just like the mechanics at the car dealer, as far as I'm concerned. If they really know their stuff, and really decide to give a shit, they can do great work. But most of them do NOT really know their stuff that well, and most of them do NOT really give a shit. And they expect you to just take what they tell you as gospel and that's that. Even though they might be having a bad day, don't give a rats ass about you in general, and have given less thought to your situation than most of us put into deciding what kind of burger to order at a drive up window. You have to take your own best interests into account and pursue them, often going against what one particular doctor may be saying. And the medical community seems to have a real knack for making that seem like swimming againts a strong tide.
The medical system in this country is totally f****d up, if you ask me.
- DAA
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DAA
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posted July 13, 2007 04:59 PM
Geeze... Sometimes I can be an ass...
Bofire, I'm awful glad to hear you are testing clear. There really isn't too many things in this world I like to hear more, than someone beating that Evil crap.
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Lonny
PANTS ON THE GROUND
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posted July 13, 2007 05:42 PM
Well, I feel like a real ass too...
I'm sure glad to hear you are a survivor Bofire. Here's to your continued good health.
I think your're right Dave. If a person suspects something is wrong with them and the Dr. blows them off, go get another opinion. I think a guy has to be persistant and ask lots of questions and make sure they are answered.
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NASA
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posted July 13, 2007 06:18 PM
Earlier this year, I paid $120 for a "non-invasive" heart scan. It was supposed to indicate any blockages or weak arterial structure.
It came back "clean" with no blockages indicated. Two months ago I had a heart attack. There were nine blockages with the worst 2 being 90% and 87%. I needed a quadruple bypass to get around them all. Carl is right, listen to your body. Get those checkups done, especially if you're over 48. Congratulations on the clean record, Bofire. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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rainshadow1
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posted July 13, 2007 07:00 PM
Mostly just posting to see what Leonard titles a first time poster...
I have a good friend who lost a Nut to T-Cancer. He almost died. Got very spooky for awhile. He's clean now, thank God. Long ordeal.
After he got the all clear, and it was all said and done, I asked him, just for possible future reference,
I says, "How long did you think something was wrong down there before you went to the Doctor?"
He looked at me, knowing exactly what I was driving at, and said, "6 months."
I hate Doctors. They're there for profit, not to serve. But if something just isn't right....
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KevinKKaller
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posted July 13, 2007 08:05 PM
Bofire Keep making liars out of the Drs.
Vary few know this about me but I moved to Id to set my wife up into country simoler to wear she grew up.
The docs gave me a short time to live I was told as a child I probly wouldent see 30.
My problems are all small but the meds are a life long fight and always getting better.
I lost my right eye when I was 21 after 3 operations and almost 6 years I am just above legaly blind That is wy I ahoot wrong handed.
I avoid Docs as much as I can But are still a nasesaty in my life.
I started treating myself with natural products 11/2 years ago and am now off1/2 of the meds thay had me on with Docs blesingsand I feal better now than I have felt sence I was 25. I am now 47. I do know what it is like to not be abol to go to work for long piriads of time from major stuf and the feling that Tim and Nasa are having of wanting to go but not being abol.
I wish you all the Best and would love to help!
What I will say is dont give up And Do every thing you can to make things right.
I have never given up and keep pruving the Docs wrong.
For me I take each day and try to make it a good day regardles of what I have to do I do enjoy work but my outdoor time is preshas to me and I try to spend as much time out as I can.
Good Luck
Good Hunting Kevin
Hope this made sence!
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Kelly Jackson
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posted July 13, 2007 08:26 PM
Lonny, the take home message there, is not to put too much faith in what a "doctor" tells you. I've been dealing with their bullshit for about 18 months now, everything from the general practioner level to the high level specialists. The more I have interacted with them, the less confidence I have in them. They are just like the mechanics at the car dealer, as far as I'm concerned. If they really know their stuff, and really decide to give a shit, they can do great work. But most of them do NOT really know their stuff that well, and most of them do NOT really give a shit. And they expect you to just take what they tell you as gospel and that's that. Even though they might be having a bad day, don't give a rats ass about you in general, and have given less thought to your situation than most of us put into deciding what kind of burger to order at a drive up window. You have to take your own best interests into account and pursue them, often going against what one particular doctor may be saying. And the medical community seems to have a real knack for making that seem like swimming againts a strong tide.
The medical system in this country is totally f****d up, if you ask me.
- DAA
I think this is the post of the year...
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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted July 13, 2007 08:37 PM
First off, sorry to hear about all the illness in this community. But, glad to hear that everyone, for the most part, is on the mend.
Unless you live in a large city with access to state of the art tests and specialists, it's hard to get top notch health care in this country. My general practitioner may not be up for any awards, but he knows for a fact that I make most of the calls about my family's healthcare. Fifteen years in EMS gave me a good track record of making diagnoses about myself and my family. So far, I've nailed every case that's come our way.
At forty, I decided to be proactive and have a full physical so as to establish firm baseline numbers while I was healthy. Shortly thereafter, I was having trouble with seasonal allergies and, despite his hesitation, he finally agreed to give me a steroid shot. On this one, he was right. Within two hours, my B/P was through the roof, running right at 240/124, when I'm usually 120's over 60-70's. On top of that, a week later, I aggravated the two bad disks in my neck and lost the use of my right arm.I could feel every beat of my heart and I very quickly noticed that I was dropping beats. Without telling my wife, so as not to alarm her, I "ran an errand" and drove myself to the ER. Even the nurse that met me was impressed. Long story less long, they ran a butt load of tests over the ensuing weeks and deduced that the hypertensive crisis was the shot and I would get to enjoy it for six months. And Lord knows I did. The irregular rhythm was checked via ECG, they started me on meds, and nothing got better. Changed meds. Nothing changed. Still another change. Nothing still. Time for me to start taking care of it myself. I spent a couple nights on the web researching my case by symptoms and finally found a relatively rare condition that one is born with and caused everything I was felling. I called my doc and asked to meet with him. The next day, I sat down, described my signs and symptoms, and told him what I thought it was. His answer? "I think you're right." He then said that since I had researched the matter, what tests did I think were appropriate. I told him echocardiogram, 30-day event monitor, and a stress test. He commended me on my research and handed me the orders.
Although I still feel those extra damned beats all day, every day, they've been reviewed by cardiologists in Kansas as well as Chicago and deemed to be normal and of no concern. In fact, everyone has them, I just get the joy of feeling them. ![[Frown]](frown.gif) Oh well, but the point being that you can have some say over your care, but sometimes you have to be insistent. After all, the doctor is still just "practicing".
Good luck to all and everyone get well soon.
BTW, for those that don't mind natural remedies, I was directed to and am now using elderberry extract instead of RX allergy meds. This stuff is incredible. It is now listed in the Nurse's Drug reference as a treatment for respiratory infections and asthma, has proven effective at reducing the length of colds, wreaks total hell on viral infections, is being used to treat West Nile Virus in horses with a lot of success and is being tested as a possible treatment for AIDS/ HIV. I'm shocked at how well it has worked for us.
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NASA
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posted July 13, 2007 09:36 PM
This is a pretty stout bunch of guys here. All the crap you're dealing with and not letting it hold you back. I'm proud to be in the company of all of you.
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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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posted July 14, 2007 06:18 AM
Leonard,
You need to strike the "gravy" from Tom's status. He's not to be eating stuff like gravy any more.
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posted July 14, 2007 07:56 AM
Lance, I think L-Bo thinks of me more as a gravy distributor, than a gravy eater, lol.
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Leonard
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posted July 14, 2007 08:55 AM
I'll try to come up with something brilliant. BRB
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Leonard
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posted July 14, 2007 08:58 AM
give that a test spin
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posted July 14, 2007 09:36 AM
LOL, I think you'll find that "sweet" isn't a characterization I'm capable of. Brutaly honest at times, but sweet? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Leonard
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posted July 14, 2007 10:03 AM
It's not personal. I think everybody with 800/999 posts will have the same classification? You have attained a lofty plateau, but the next stage to Nervana is 1000 posts. Think how swell it will be as a Field Marsha, up there with Higgins, and all of us hanging on his every word. But, that takes a lot of dedication. Are you a Gamer, or no?
Good hunting. LB
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