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Posted by MULE (Member # 63) on August 03, 2008, 09:13 PM:
...invented the internet.
Amazing
Now every scrawny assed coyote weighs no less than 30 pounds and a 28 pound or so coyote now weighs 40 pounds.
I especially love the part where guys who probably couldn't lift shit are holding it shoulder high.
And I'm not talking about claims from guys out east. These are western coyotes.
And these same folks claim it was weighed on a digital scale. Fine...lets see a ******* pic of the same dog on a scale.
Yes some coyote go 40 pounds of better out west. Some go 30 or better. But when I see a coyote that I'll bet don't go 25 pounds held up shoulder high by some pussy who claims its 40 pounds and probably couldn't military press 40 pounds with one hand then I call bullshit.
Rant done
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 03, 2008, 10:37 PM:
.....and a fine rant it was!!!
Add to list;
Shooting a coyote, laughing like Renfield & announcing "Yeah BaBY!!!" instead of waiting to see if a second coyote comes in.
Dragging a coyote by the hind leg against the fur while telling me what a fine pelt it will make.
And last but not least, the increasing number of videos that are an endless series of hero scenes and seem to have a negative instructional value.
(Mongolia??)
Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on August 04, 2008, 07:01 AM:
"And last but not least, the increasing number of videos that are an endless series of hero scenes and seem to have a negative instructional value."
That phenomenon can be traced back to the cheap video cameras available today. Everyone has one, and is doing a carbon copy, of the videos they've seen.
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on August 04, 2008, 08:00 AM:
Good point Dan; It's just hard to find one that isn't the same ole same ole. In the last few years,I can only really think of one that jumped out at me,and that was one put out by Mark Zepp and Eddie Hawkins. It Made me take notice primarily becasue of the production value, which was stunning. Great camera work, clarity of resolution, scenery, for lack of a better word, just a pretty video to watch.
If you think about it, what the hell can you do to make a different calling video? Kind of like porno, same cast of "stars" you've come to know and love, same yacking about calls,gear and gun, the the same "boom chicka wow wow" and it's over:)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 04, 2008, 09:09 AM:
I remember what the professor told me once. We were discussing the relative merits of the "first" Coyote Gods video, and he said that the shorter fella went a bit overboard in admiring his coyotes, and half expected him to flop down and roll on it. Sure, we can laugh about it now, but was that a catty remark!
Back to heavy coyotes. I have never seen a true 40 pound coyote, on the ground, anywhere. Occasionally, one comes close, real close; but I don't recall seeing a 40, in the flesh, not looking at somebody's pictures?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on August 04, 2008, 09:27 AM:
I haven't seen the one by Mark Zepp and Eddie Hawkins. If you have it feel free to send it up this way and I'll review it and return it.
As to the weight of coyotes, I don't weigh them, skin them, nor do I eat them. So, I don't have a clue, I'll just take your word for it that they all weigh 40+ pounds.
Posted by MULE (Member # 63) on August 04, 2008, 03:43 PM:
Dan said: "I'll just take your word for it that they all weigh 40+ pounds."
Dan, I hope that wasn't directed at me because that is exactly the opposite of what I was trying to convey.
Are there 40+ pound coyotes out west? Sure. I even killed one once. 30+ punders. Not uncommon.
But some people habitually add 10 pounds to every coyote they kill without any basis in fact.
That was my point.
Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on August 04, 2008, 03:50 PM:
Dan said: "I'll just take your word for it that they all weigh 40+ pounds."
Reworded: I'll just take their word for it that they all weigh 40+ pounds. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by Randy Roede (Member # 1273) on August 04, 2008, 03:59 PM:
I either attend or compete in most of the local calling contests, biggest I have seen are 38# , that I can remember!!! Most fit into the 25#-30# range.
Posted by MULE (Member # 63) on August 04, 2008, 04:02 PM:
Randy that 25-30 weight range has been my experience as well.
At least for colorado
Posted by MULE (Member # 63) on August 04, 2008, 04:03 PM:
Thanks Dan
I just didn't want to be misunderstood ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on August 04, 2008, 04:57 PM:
Along the same lines it takes a hell of a tom bobcat to weigh 30lbs, but yet they kill them non stop on the internet. I have trapped bobcats in the hundreds and can only think of a handful that weighed 30 plus. And yes, I do have a digital fish scale. Coyotes, the same. Takes a big s.o.b. to hit the 30 mark. But I have seen a handful.
Notice two regulars, and an extra jumbo!
[ August 04, 2008, 05:04 PM: Message edited by: 3 Toes ]
Posted by Randy Roede (Member # 1273) on August 04, 2008, 05:17 PM:
Nice lookin cats Mr. Taylor!!!!
Posted by Rich Higgins (Member # 3) on August 04, 2008, 06:44 PM:
Tyler's first bobcat weighed 32 pounds on a KOA scale.
He's taken quite a few since, none near that mark.
Posted by yuccabush (Member # 582) on August 04, 2008, 06:56 PM:
We have weighed so many coyotes turned into various contest over the past several years here in NM.
The bigger ones usally are about 36-38 pounds. I cannot remember a 40 pounder. Most are under 30 pounds.
Posted by MULE (Member # 63) on August 04, 2008, 07:08 PM:
Cal,
You are one bobcat getting dude. What kind of dog is that on the trailer? Looks like a kelpie cut off at the knees
Rich,
Make the pic bigger. Too small for me
Posted by Dan Carey (Member # 987) on August 04, 2008, 07:14 PM:
Nice cats
[ August 04, 2008, 07:15 PM: Message edited by: Dan Carey ]
Posted by George Ackley (Member # 898) on August 04, 2008, 07:51 PM:
nice cats!
30 lb+ dogs are not uncommon here on the east coast, but lot of hunters do think they are bigger then they are, I even get surprised every now and then when they are lighter then they look, big winter coats can be deceiving ,, I don't think I ever scaled a cat, we just take a nose to tail measurement 26'' to 34'' is average on a tom's I have taken a couple over 36''in south Texas,I cant get a tag here at home but we don't see the nice spots often here in PA on are cats, we get the dark orangey brown cats, not much on markings ether..
[ August 04, 2008, 07:52 PM: Message edited by: George Ackley ]
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on August 04, 2008, 08:28 PM:
It takes a lot of coyote to hit 40 pounds,and it's obvious when you heft and see one compared to a "normal" 20-25 pound coyote, see........
Posted by George Ackley (Member # 898) on August 04, 2008, 09:44 PM:
Me being a plus size guy I make every thing look small ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
I always thought these guys holding what they think is a 40+ lb dog up with one hand an a smile must be stronger then me
I cant one hand them,
I am 6'6'' and just a tad under 375lb but this is a big dog , early Oct. harvest so the coat isn't all that good
[ August 04, 2008, 09:45 PM: Message edited by: George Ackley ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 04, 2008, 09:55 PM:
Vic, did ya flop down and roll in it?
(I couldn't resist)
Forgive me, Lord; and be with those starving pigmies
[ August 04, 2008, 09:56 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on August 04, 2008, 10:00 PM:
No, but I did stroke it lovingly after I shot it stone dead with one little 27 grain bullet from my .19 Calhoon at about an honest 100 yards.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 04, 2008, 10:52 PM:
snapped this pic of the historic reunion.
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on August 04, 2008, 10:58 PM:
I had told Tim I forgot my camera, wanted to get a historical photo of the judges of calling contest as well as any inpromtu ones I could snap. Send me an e-mail of any you think I might find interesting. What a good time I had, always good to see you and the rest of the gang!
Posted by Hawkeye (Member # 216) on August 05, 2008, 06:44 PM:
It was nice seeing the gang I cant believe Higgy didnt win. Leonard I said I couldnt make the campout but got from saturday on off so I will show up friday night stay til monday or tuesday. Vic thanks for the compliments third video will be done soon will be best yet.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 05, 2008, 07:52 PM:
Good seeing you, Eddie. Glad you will be able to make some of the campout. Hey, I wondered why you had your camcorder trained on the judges table, rather than on the contestants? What's up with that?
Good hunting. LB
Posted by Hawkeye (Member # 216) on August 05, 2008, 08:48 PM:
Just taking it all in.
Posted by Jrbhunter (Member # 459) on August 06, 2008, 04:49 AM:
Around here, if they're under 40# we just LIP EM'.
Posted by JeremyKS (Member # 736) on August 06, 2008, 06:12 AM:
Schmid-Schmid——- 46.6 Lbs.
Lipovsky-Teimeyer—- 44.2 Lbs
Hilt-Kaup————- 41.3 Lbs
Keller-Roseberry—— 37.2 Lbs*
Horinek-Schlosser—– 37.2 Lbs*
Orth-Moyer———– 37.0 Lbs
Harris-Harris———– 35.4 Lbs
Humrich-McArthur—— 34.4 Lbs
This was the results from last year at st. francis.
The coyote Schmid's turned in was fat as could be.
Posted by Locohead (Member # 15) on August 06, 2008, 01:49 PM:
Jeremy was that the father son team (Schmid-Schmid)that turned in a bunch of super mangy coyotes and one giant!?!? Wierd batch of coyotes. Coinidence or one of those things only the proffessor could explain?
Posted by JeremyKS (Member # 736) on August 06, 2008, 02:03 PM:
If I remember right that was Tom Schmid and his uncle?
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