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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 27, 2010, 08:25 PM:
 
Subject: open letter to huntmasters Re: PM
Date: 1/26/2010 8:16:28 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
From: crystalriversteve@yahoo.com
Reply To: nbosin@aol.com



Message: Message to Mr. Leonard Bosinski -

When are you going to urge these PM banned crybabies who have all these deep dark secrets about the mods and admins on PM to PUT UP OR SHUT UP!?!?

For the past couple of years huntmasters has harbored these big mouths who claim that they can SHUT DOWN PM with all their supposed knowledge of behind the scenes shenanigans. Well, TIME TO SHUT PM DOWN, then, don't you think? Face it, we all hate those, hmm, how did one of those mods put it when they hammered one of there own..."paranoid little bastUrd" ya thats it. Yea, time for the bad ass GONNA SHUT DOWN PM WITH ALL THERE DIRTY SECRETS gang that habits your site plus that new shithole DesertHunter.com (PredatorMonsters lite).

PUT UP OR SHUT UP, Leonard you tell them boys to get with it and shut those bastUrds down or SHUT THE FUK UP

Thanks for your concern to this matter.

Steve Cassell


Subject: Re: open letter to huntmasters Re: PM
Date: 1/26/2010 10:02:29 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
From: Nbosin@aol.com
Reply To: crystal river steve


Subject: Re: open letter to huntmasters Re: PM
Date: 1/26/2010 10:02:29 P.M. Pacific Standard Time

What is this about?

1/27/2010 5:12:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, crystalriversteve@yahoo.com writes:

Message: Message to Leonard Bosinski:

From: Steve Cassell

You ask 'what the hell is this abou'????? I believe I was loud and clear-----'crystal river' clear to be precise. Your website harbors a bunch of wan a be bad azzes who claim they can shut down the boys at PM with their inside knowledge.

Well, time for the 'inside information' to be exposed! tell your boys on huntmasters and predatormonsterlite to MAN UP and expose the Redfrog battilion.

Tell them to PUT UP or SHUT UP!

Steve Cassell


Subject: Re: open letter to huntmasters
Date: 1/27/2010 8:27:05 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
From: Nbosin@aol.com
Reply To: Crystal steve



Steve,

I don't know you, at all? You may think that your message was loud and "crystal clear" but I don't think Huntmasters harbors wanna be bad asses. If we have them, and I fail to see that we do, it seems to me that it's an internal issue and none of your business, whether your request is a personal one or in some sort of official capacity?

So. Why is this my problem?

In the meantime, I'll post your concerns for you, since you apparently aren't man enough to do it yourself. If you want to register and tell everybody to "man up" and "shut up"; there is nothing stopping you. LB

**************************************************

Anybody know this guy or what his beef is? Enlighten me.

Good hunting. LB

[ January 27, 2010, 08:29 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on January 27, 2010, 11:12 PM:
 
Never heard of the guy Leonard,

I think he may be snorting "Crystal" though... that or he's had too much Koolaid.

Maybe he has an inside and can get us all a copy of PM's 501(c)(3) status since no one else can?

Nikonut [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on January 27, 2010, 11:40 PM:
 
Hey Stevie boy...

Since we both apparently live in Decatur,Illinois would you like to try me for starters? Anytime...Anyplace! LOL

Looks like another spoof Leonard. That email address is registered to a Steve Bryant from Decatur, Illinois...

Nikonut

[ January 28, 2010, 01:02 AM: Message edited by: Nikonut ]
 
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on January 28, 2010, 03:43 AM:
 
I wonder what prompted this all of a sudden?

It has been rather quiet lately.
 
Posted by Patterson (Member # 3304) on January 28, 2010, 06:00 AM:
 
ya bunch of wanna be's
 
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on January 28, 2010, 07:45 AM:
 
Sweet! Another email baddass.
 
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on January 28, 2010, 07:48 AM:
 
Couldnt he have just said be quite instead of shut the fuk up?
 
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on January 28, 2010, 08:07 AM:
 
quote:
Another email baddass.
I believe the term is 'badazzes'....I think the Z's mean your the baddest of the bad. Either that, or the guy still lives with his mom, and doesn't want her to catch him typing 'bad words'. You know, change the S's to Z's and drop the C from 'fuck'....just a theory.

Maintain
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 28, 2010, 08:26 AM:
 
Whoever he is, he doesn't have to worry about this custom title: This guy automatically knows more than any PM Moderator until his tenth post. Until then, he's just a PAKMAN.

Good hunting. LB

Illinois....figures! Prolly knows Barry?
 
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on January 28, 2010, 09:05 AM:
 
PM is doing a pretty good job of shutting itself down, without any help from those of us who have been banned.

I am not, nor do I want to be, a badazz (or a badass).

Friggen chicken sh*t lurkers anyways, all take, and nothing to give. [Roll Eyes]

It's tough, running with the big dogs... but I'd rather sit on the porch with 'em, than hide under it.

Krusty  -
 
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on January 28, 2010, 10:45 AM:
 
Well said Krusty!
 
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on January 28, 2010, 11:11 AM:
 
quote:
I wonder what prompted this all of a sudden?
Might have been the picture of Redfrog playing with his monkey I posted at DH... LOL

Nikonut [Razz]
 
Posted by Andy L (Member # 642) on January 28, 2010, 01:38 PM:
 
I think CrossJ hit it on the noggin. Some 12 yr old on mommas computer. I honestly think that is what a whole lot of these internet hunting experts are actually. Which would include about half of PMs membership. Thats probably why the hunt didnt turn out too big. Nobody could get permission, a ride or money from their folks to come.
 
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on January 28, 2010, 04:09 PM:
 
quote:
Maybe he has an inside and can get us all a copy of PM's 501(c)(3) status since no one else can?
After reading Nikon's post, I poked around a little bit. I was able to ascertain that PM is registered with the state of Utah as a non-profit organization in good standing.

PM lists their incorporation papers on their website. See link:

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forms/PMInc.pdf

The list of non profit organizations is public knowledge, though it is a difficult to find on the state website (same as NJ).

So it's all legal folks.

(Edited to add link)

[ January 28, 2010, 04:43 PM: Message edited by: 4949shooter ]
 
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on January 28, 2010, 05:28 PM:
 
49,

Well then, things, as they always do, have changed... some years ago some of us in PM's now defunct chatroom made a similar attempt, to confirm their not for profit status, and could not do so. [Roll Eyes]

One of the ways a not for profit "burns" profit, is through salaries and bonuses. [Wink]

Krusty  -
 
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on January 28, 2010, 10:01 PM:
 
quote:
So it's all legal folks.
Sorry to bust the bubble here but...

Read real close there fellas, those are state incorporation papers not IRS non-profit status filing.

The IRS denied PM's tax exempt status to the best anyone can determine, possibly due to late or non submitted paper work by the BOD... if anyone can provide the 501(c)(3) papers please do so and prove me wrong... like Obama's real birth certificate... just show me the proof!

By the way, just before I was dismissed as a mod there I brought it to the Admn's attention that the state fees were not paid and the corporation was in default! If someone had filed for the name and corporate rights they could possibly have challenged PM for it's name! Probably wouldn't have won by what the state registrar told me but would have been fun anyway. [Big Grin]

Nikonut

[ January 28, 2010, 10:08 PM: Message edited by: Nikonut ]
 
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on January 29, 2010, 02:39 AM:
 
There is no bubble busting Nikon. The facts are what they are.

They are definately in good standing as a non profit with the state of Utah at this juncture. The state website is difficult to navigate, and the only reason I believe I was able to do so was because I just renewed the non profit status of our organization here in NJ, and the state websites are similar.

Edit: But you are correct Nikon, it is possible for a state registered non profit to be not registered with the federal government as a 501c3 organization.

Edit2: Though the benefit of being non profit would be the tax exempt status, so why would any non profit organization not file under 501c3?

[ January 29, 2010, 04:21 AM: Message edited by: 4949shooter ]
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 29, 2010, 07:54 AM:
 
It is just that the whole issue has long been elusive and curious.

It's one of those things like Barry's birth certificate. Show it to us and we will shut up....say the Birthers. So it is with PM's phantom 501c3.

Do I give a shit? No.

Good hunting. LB
 
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on January 29, 2010, 09:56 AM:
 
Yep 4949,

quote:
Edit: But you are correct Nikon, it is possible for a state registered non profit to be not registered with the federal government as a 501c3 organization.

Edit2: Though the benefit of being non profit would be the tax exempt status, so why would any non profit organization not file under 501c3?

That is the question everyone wants answered and how does that affect their claiming to be non-profit in Utah... either you are or you aren't. They claim to be 501(c)(3), that doesn't appear to be the case. Had I not called it to their attention they wouldn't have been registered in Utah either! My mistake... should have let it ride and watched the show.

Nikonut [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on January 29, 2010, 01:25 PM:
 
I gotta stop with the rhetorical questions.

Anyhoo, anybody kill anything lately?
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 29, 2010, 02:44 PM:
 
Or, use The Rhetorical Question Forum. It doesn't get nearly enough traffic lately.

Good hunting. LB
 
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on January 29, 2010, 02:48 PM:
 
Yeah I got a few people confused over on Glocktalk with my supposed rhetoric.
 
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on January 29, 2010, 02:53 PM:
 
Felt like crap this morning just from being in a smokey bar last night. I maybe killed a few brain cells last night, ...well, probably not unless Pepsi kills them, too. [Big Grin]

Played in a pool tournament and got third place after getting beat in the first round by the guy that eventually ended up taking first place. Made for a long night playing up through the loser bracket. Got home around 9:30P... when I was young and single I stayed out all night!

I've seen the light, coyote calling isn't much fun anymore. If this economy doesn't pick up soon I'm taking up drinking and chasing wild women again.

What do you guys think? Playing pool,drinking,chasing wild women,where does predator hunting fit in?(is that a rhetorical question) [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Nikonut
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 29, 2010, 03:07 PM:
 
5 ball, 8 ball, 9 ball, straight pool, billiards? How long ago did you give up women? For what?

Good hunting. LB

edit: Glock talk? OMG! What do they have to talk about?

[ January 29, 2010, 03:10 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on January 29, 2010, 04:03 PM:
 
I don't think Mrs. 49 would be too thrilled about the chasing wild women part. [Big Grin] She would much prefer predator hunting.

Glocktalk...with 118,000 members they talk about everything over there. I usually post in the coptalk forum.

I know you guys are surprised.
 
Posted by R.Shaw (Member # 73) on January 29, 2010, 05:01 PM:
 
quote:
What do you guys think? Playing pool,drinking,chasing wild women,where does predator hunting fit in?
Niko.....Ask me who is buried in Grant's Tomb. It would be a tougher question.

Randy
 
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on January 29, 2010, 05:08 PM:
 
Leonard,

I've played 3ball and lots of 3cushion billiards but can't say I've ever played 5ball, played billiards as a kid with Bill Hawkins, World Champion Billiards player from Decatur, Il. I still have the cue Bill turned for me when I was 15! I also have been privileged to play Nick Varner in 9ball and Tom Rossman,World Champion Trick Shot Artist. I first met TomR when he ran a pool hall here and got to play him in tournaments every now and then. He also sold me my first of many "Viking Cues".
I wish I could still see like when I was younger but years of working in railroad dust and at night has ruined my vision. I still do OK every now and then on the pool table. [Wink]

Who said I gave up women? I'm single again after 28years and still trying to particpate like I'm 29! [Big Grin]

quote:
Niko.....Ask me who is buried in Grant's Tomb. It would be a tougher question.
I fully understand Randy!!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Nikonut [Razz]

[ January 29, 2010, 05:12 PM: Message edited by: Nikonut ]
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 29, 2010, 06:08 PM:
 
Five ball is what we called a variation of 9 Ball where the 5 ball is respotted as many times as possible before the nine ball is sunk. Maybe there is another local name for it?

Good hunting. LB
 
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on January 29, 2010, 06:20 PM:
 
Nikonad, dont you have a myspace or facebook page to post this sort of shit on??

Maintain
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 29, 2010, 06:32 PM:
 
OMG! I totally lost it over that comment, Geordie. Funny! lol, literally!

Hey, I hear you Okies got some weather?

Good hunting. LB
 
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on January 29, 2010, 06:36 PM:
 
Yes luckily we missed all of the ice, but the snow that was supposed to quit at 5pm is still coming down.

Maintain
 
Posted by Nikonut (Member # 188) on January 29, 2010, 07:26 PM:
 
Hey Geordie,

Good one! I'll try to refrain myself... but from one "Okie" to another, I'd rather be hunting than pecking away on this keyboard! [Big Grin]

Nikonuts [Cool]
 
Posted by Semp (Member # 3074) on February 01, 2010, 10:59 AM:
 
Back to the 501(c)(3) mystery...... formal complaints to the IRS have been filed along with a few phone calls. This issue is not going away for PM.

Just depends on when or if the IRS decides to follow up on it. I suspect tax deductions have been taken by donors that are not tax deductible.
 
Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on February 01, 2010, 02:00 PM:
 
G missed the ice, but I didn't. No power for a few days. Back up and running since Saturday.
There are some folks just north of me, that will be without power for at least two weeks.

Kelly
 




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